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Post by Ro on Nov 30, 2014 23:07:30 GMT -5
Okay, just to be clear, this is for canon boosters only. There's a few too many fan-boosters, and I wanted speculation on the canon boosters in this thread instead. Now, I'm going to go over what we do know: Artha Penn is confirmed for Dragon Booster (Duh) and Moordryd Paynn is the Shadow Booster. We have visuals of both. Parmon Sean is the Power Booster - however, we don't quite have a visual sadly. Kitt was stated somewhere to be the Fire Booster (Which I managed to clean up on of the images and brighten it a bit, which should help with figuring out some definition in the Armour!) but I can't find where exactly right now, so gimme time to find the link ;w; As for the Energy Booster, we can assume it's Lance due to the heavy fore-shadowing in the episode "Horn of Libris". No visuals on that booster are confirmed. So, here's our visuals for the Dragon Booster, Shadow Booster, and Fire Booster:
Booster Visuals under the cut: Dragon Booster (From the Wiki page)  Shadow Booster (again, from the Wiki page)  Fire Booster (Cleaned-up screenshot - My edit)
So, what do you guys think? We can now state that we can clearly see that the original Fire Booster's sex was female, as well as agree with heavy foreshadowing that Lance could possibly be the Energy Booster, and we know for fact that Parm has the Power Booster's gauntlet. I saw some discussion going on in other threads speculating, and I though it's be great to keep it in another thread. I personally for one wonder if the original Energy Booster was also a kid, like Lance. Also, since all the armor we've seen so far is mainstream and built for speed and maneuverability, so I wonder how the Power Booster's is going to look like. Possibly a bit more bulky, with more emphasis on strength rather then flexibility. What do you guys think? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2014 23:33:55 GMT -5
I think kitty is on a roll with her (albeit fan) designs for the Power booster. My sister and I are very heavy purists when it comes to our favorite fandomes.
I don't want to start any wars but how CAN you tell the original Fire Booster was a chick? I dunno, I just don't see it.
Maybe it was a girl and I will admit that would be cool but as long as she wasn't a bossy know-it-all.
If she was more like a real team player, (simply less like Kitt, can't really explain it,) Then I'd totally love the fire booster as a chick.
As for the Energy Booster, I would totally put my money on Lance. I could just imagine Artha freaking out over his little brother's safety but Lance would be like "I GET TO FINALLY HELP ARTHA!!!!" *starts dancing*.
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Post by Ro on Dec 1, 2014 0:25:46 GMT -5
I don't want to start any wars but how CAN you tell the original Fire Booster was a chick? I dunno, I just don't see it. I actually did an overlay of the original Fire Booster's anatomy based on what I've seen in the show and what I've seen in my clean-up:  Judging on the anatomy from both the show and real life, the FB's hips flare out too much to be a man, not to mention there's quite a bit of a protrusion coming from their chest, suggesting breasts. That and the armor isn't as defining of the arms and legs in a masculine way as the DB's or the SB's armor, but rather accentuates the feminine figure, and having studied some character design lately either FB's most definitely a girl or - if they are male - is intersex identifying as a male. That and how many dudes in the show have curves instead of harsh angles? None, apart from Moordryd and Word, and even then they don't have an ass like the FB does. Maybe it was a girl and I will admit that would be cool but as long as she wasn't a bossy know-it-all. If she was more like a real team player, (simply less like Kitt, can't really explain it,) Then I'd totally love the fire booster as a chick. I honestly would have to disagree with you on that front. Kitt is a team player, but due to events in her life she comes off as abrasive, which is a totally great character flaw. She 'burns' people with her 'scathing' remarks, which suits her draconium influence brilliantly. Though I can see why this would make you not like her, she's rather blunt and harsh about touchy subjects, but I'd imagine that this comes from her past once again. Personally, I'd imagine the FB being the same way as Kitt in personality, because it's not like the original boosters had much of a choice to team up - either they brought balance back or they'd be destroyed with the rest of the world at Armegadonn's hands. That and I love it when girls get more character flaws personally, it shows that they aren't focusing on the men being strong and independent and allowing girls the same allowances for character development, which Kitt eventually loses her defensiveness towards the rest of the Penn Racing Crew and shows that she does have a tender side. That and I'd bitch too if I was dragged along in such a crazy adventure all of a sudden, along with Artha stealing what little spotlight I had after a difficult childhood. As for the Energy Booster, I would totally put my money on Lance. I could just imagine Artha freaking out over his little brother's safety but Lance would be like "I GET TO FINALLY HELP ARTHA!!!!" *starts dancing*. Yeah, I'd admit this would be a great character development stage for both Artha and Lance, along with Connor (Cos what Dad wouldn't freak out over having two of his kids suddenly in the midst of trying to prevent/fight in a war?). That and I bet Lance would look adorable in the Energy Booster's armor. This will probably be the one thing most of the shows fans can agree on haha ^^' |
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Post by Bluesonic1 on Dec 1, 2014 4:44:27 GMT -5
Yeah I'm gonna side on the points Ro made about the feminine form this FB takes, and it kinda does look like there's breasts though I can see that as debatable.
HAHA dat ass. But yeah you're right, the hips/ass flare really gives it away.
Hmm I try to see both sides of Kitt's personality- she is indeed very blunt at times, I personally like people like that as they're more honest, but I definitely know some people really dislike that quality in others. Also, it makes sense that she's not a team player sometimes to be honest, considering her rough and sad upbringing as a child/backstory. As the series progressed she definitely did become more of a team player, but always kept an independent streak too which I think as Ro says, works really well for her being the FB. When Artha's not around, she's not afraid to take charge, and comes up with decent plans too (often with the help of Parm but you know what I mean).
Ahhh I can just imagine an epic fight scene starting with the DB and EB standing together, armour on and dragons transformed, and just behind them- Connor in his priest armour/Mortis-form atop of T. Pax who's fitted out with that ancient mag battle cannon gear. What an epic scene that would make!!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2014 10:30:20 GMT -5
As I said, I don't want to start any wars over Kitt. I was just saying.... *jumps behind the Couch*
I'm just from the school that there can be really good independent female characters (Like Whinry Rockbell from FMA or Nami and Robin from One Piece) Then there are flat out Feminist characters who think that they're all that. These are the kind that, pardon my Draconian, Scrape my scales.
Kitt tends to come across as that but I WILL AGREE that after a while she does come around and become a better team player but she can still be kinda bratty/derpy at times. I agree that it makes for good character flaws.
Quote from "Eye of the Dragon"
-Kitt "If Moordryd get's the Bone-marks, WORD Gets them. It's a Race! And We'll get there first!"
-Artha "Get WHERE Kitt?"
-Kitt "duhhhh......" XD
Yes, this fits VERY WELL with the Fire Personality (Chinese Zodiac nut here) It's just not a personality I'd do very well around or like. BUT That's just me.
TL;DR, Yes Kitt is a decent and reasonably well flawed Female character for what they wrote for her draconium type, just not one I personally like to see representing the female archetype as a whole. *jumps back to the couch*
LET'S TALK ABOUT LANCE!!!
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Post by prettykitty13 on Dec 1, 2014 11:13:19 GMT -5
would this be a good topic to put these in? Energy Booster concept(yes it's Lance, can't ya tell by the freckle?   Power Booster WIP(Yes, It's Parm, but I draw him to look way too hot XD  These are both very rough designs mind you RO, so any input with help me polish them up ^_^ |
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Post by Bluesonic1 on Dec 2, 2014 4:55:48 GMT -5
Seeing as I've already commented on the Booster design stuff, yeah I do see your point now AM  She makes for a good character but yeah, it's basically the only female we reeeeally see in the show. We have Pyrrah too but she's kinda like Kitt, if not worse considering her power-hungry side (Bone-Mark aside, she did side with the SB during Cain's Mutiny episode). I would have loved to see more of Chute, she seemed really cool! |
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Post by prettykitty13 on Dec 2, 2014 10:44:46 GMT -5
I dunno, I really liked Pyrrah, she seemed to have a bit more of a softer personality than Kitt (when she's not power hungry anyway)
Like "what's a little sweetie like you doing here?" and "I haven't been my usual lovely self" I dunno, maybe it's just me, but episode 3 really gave some insight to Pyrrah's good side, most of the time, she even speaks in a softer tone than Kitt, I like her <3
Chute to me was kinda meh, She a good character, and I like the way she helps Artha out, but maybe she a little too quirky for me...but it would still be nice to see more of her.
ooh hey, didn't the MG say somewhere that the original DB was some sorta solder with a chip on his shoulder or something like that??
I dunno, I sorta have a fancanon that Original DB might have been the captain of ancient DC security (like Cpt Fayer) before the city got attacked by an army of dragons (set loose by Armeggy) and then got swept up in te whole "save he planet" business.
anybody agree or have input?
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Post by Ro on Dec 3, 2014 6:07:52 GMT -5
As a feminist, that's kinda offensive AM. There are different kind of feminists out there, even if it is the bigoted loudmouths who give the rest of us a bad name that seem to be shown more. Which Kitt isn't. I'll start a new topic on the woman of Dragon Booster however, a few healthy debates never hurt anything. (And if we get the creators to glance over them, with a reboot in mind, maybe we can get a more even spread of women :T )
For your designs prettykitty, the Energy Booster looks great, though maybe swapping out the yellow for light blue (like blue gear) would be better. (I dunno, I've noticed that the Booster arnour looks like gear used in present-day Draconis, but this is just observation and could be completely untrue for all I know.)
As for the Power Booster, it looks almost too flowy to represent the draconium class. So far we've seen the gear portray the draconium class that the Booster is related to. I'd suggest giving the Power Booster a blockier, more bull-ish form, though the base you got going is pretty accurate to what we've seen so far. As of right now it looks like it represents almost a light green and green crossover. A few more harsh angles would help to fix this, but so far so good.
As for the original DB, it's almost like he was apart of the Preisthood, from what the MG hinted at. But he 'lost his faith and gave up' as the MG stated. Then, when he regained it, the original Beau chose him. From what was written by the MG, it's like the original DB had to believe in himself and humanity before he could fight, which was when the world was almost doomed. Whihc seems fitting, because didn't Artha go through the same thing when the Chromatic bonemark was introduced? He just went through it sooner, without such a bad outlook on life.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2014 11:30:52 GMT -5
I don't mean to offend you or anyone else but that's just my personal taste in cartoon/anime characters.
I DID say that Kitt is a good character, just not one I like. I'm more with Kitty for enjoying Pyrrah. Chutte was, I found really funny, she's just so weird I can't help but like her. (maybe cause I'm so weird/eccentric myself)
Personally, I LOVE all the strong Male characters in the show! That is the core of a strong society! Men lead the charge and women bring up the Rear. (note: I didn't say 'follow'. It's all about TEAMWORK!)
I wouldn't change anything..... except for maybe seeing Fira and Zulay in flashbacks! T_T
I don't want to start a flame-war or anything, I'm just saying like everyone else here.
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Post by Bluesonic1 on Dec 3, 2014 19:29:21 GMT -5
Actually, I remember reading in one of the character thingies of the Magna Draconis that original DB's character was based on that of Bowen's from Dragonheart (if you haven't seen that movie yet YOU REALLY NEED TO!  ). And Ro's explanation of him is pretty spot on too. And yes let's not start any flame wars ^_^ If there are any issues just let me know, but otherwise take any disputes into PM for resolution~ I'm kinda with Ro on the topic, and especially so regarding men taking the charge, but this could be because I'm genderfluid so it seems strange to me that one gender is more suited to something than the other (I'm not a feminist either but I think that's kinda what feminism is, seeing the genders equal?). But again, everyone's entitled to their own opinion and if that's how you feel AM then that's fine too I would have loved to see Fira and Zulay in flashbacks too, just to see how the developers would have made them look rather than the supervised fan art we have now. Hmm I wonder what the other original Boosters would have been like? I get the feeling the original Power Booster would have been somewhat like Phistus |
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Post by prettykitty13 on Dec 4, 2014 1:29:21 GMT -5
For your designs prettykitty, the Energy Booster looks great, though maybe swapping out the yellow for light blue (like blue gear) would be better. (I dunno, I've noticed that the Booster arnour looks like gear used in present-day Draconis, but this is just observation and could be completely untrue for all I know.) As for the Power Booster, it looks almost too flowy to represent the draconium class. So far we've seen the gear portray the draconium class that the Booster is related to. I'd suggest giving the Power Booster a blockier, more bull-ish form, though the base you got going is pretty accurate to what we've seen so far. As of right now it looks like it represents almost a light green and green crossover. A few more harsh angles would help to fix this, but so far so good. As for the original DB, it's almost like he was apart of the Preisthood, from what the MG hinted at. But he 'lost his faith and gave up' as the MG stated. Then, when he regained it, the original Beau chose him. From what was written by the MG, it's like the original DB had to believe in himself and humanity before he could fight, which was when the world was almost doomed. Whihc seems fitting, because didn't Artha go through the same thing when the Chromatic bonemark was introduced? He just went through it sooner, without such a bad outlook on life. Color adjust, got it. I wanted the EB to mainly represent lightening, so having white even just for the torso should be okay, and no other booster have that (save for Moordryd, but it's grey) blockier, got it. I did base a lot of the design of the helmet off of his gauntlet, so for the armor, i went with the flow i had going at the time, but I agree it's too....elf-ey? hard-core DB backstory, got it. Yeah, I thought it might have been something like that, but maybe not to the degree of being a DP 0-0 When I have time, I'll make some changes and see what happens ;] |
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Post by Bluesonic1 on Dec 5, 2014 20:09:25 GMT -5
Yeah come to think of it now, I really don't think the original DB would have been a Priest too- the Priests were more like the DB's crew in a way, supporting and guiding him much like Connor/Mortis mentors Artha/DB. @prettykitty: This might be more in the blocky style Ro is referring to? |
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She makes for a good character but yeah, it's basically the only female we reeeeally see in the show. We have Pyrrah too but she's kinda like Kitt, if not worse considering her power-hungry side (Bone-Mark aside, she did side with the SB during Cain's Mutiny episode). I would have loved to see more of Chute, she seemed really cool!
). And Ro's explanation of him is pretty spot on too.
