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Post by BraveSteelDragon on May 31, 2016 8:53:58 GMT -5
First of all, let's address what the Magna Draconis has already presented us with about these kind of dragons: What happened to Chute's old dragon Twyster? S/he can't be too old, since Connor raised him/her. Comfortably retired? [...] Excellent question Sarah. Twyster isn't to old at all! The coolest part of this question is that the answer comes partly from another question by Nayade in Santiago, Chile. When you get into Academy you learn many new things about draconium, the various frequencies of draconium powers and how to best channel those powers through the human body. A little secret in Dragon Booster is that all humans and some dragons have traces of gold draconium in their bones and when the highly skilled (Dragon Priests, Connor, Word, some Academy and Elite Class Racers for example) learn to match energy with the dragon, the dragon does indeed at some point, mutate and grow. Twyster is now an Academy dragon, meaning some of this evolution has taken place. When Chute comes out for the Vortex Relay Race, she rides another street-safe dragon. Evolving Academy Dragons are a bit too much for the All City Track, they are far more dangerous, powerful and harder to control. [...] Abandonn and Tyrannis Pax are among the few giant dragons we see. How did they become so big? Are they naturally giants or were they mutated? Are there other giants around somewhere? If not where did they go? Cool question Nayade. In the Academy, you learn to release more and more of your dragon's draconium powers and learn to channel more and more of your own. Yes, as one of my earlier answers stated, all humans have traces of gold draconium in their bones and in the ancient past when humans and dragons ruled together, draconium was used in great "Atlantean" technology that operated machines and technology just from the mere presence of humans and dragons. This is why when Artha and Beau walk past the ancient statues in "The Choosing" the structures faintly light up from their energy. Back to your question, when you and dragon learn to balance power in just such a way, a transformative evolution happens which changes both you and your dragon forever. Tyrannis Pax and Abandonn are both Elite Class dragons that were once smaller and less powerful. Only Elite Class racing dragons are so big, so imagine just how bad the war would be if it broke out again. This is also why you have to train for years to race Elite Class. Most of this training happens of course, at the Academy! What did Beau's parents look like? Are they still around somewhere? Any reason why we don't see them? Hi Allye, good question! The simple answer is that Beau's parents look a bit like Beau only a bit bigger! They are both Elite Class dragons and have been evolved and changed by the full release of their draconium powers. [...] What are the typical features of a mutated Academy dragon (apart from the titanic size change)? Are the changes dragon-specific or similar to others of the same colour? And what kind of races are designed for them? Thanks for the question SilverDragon. The evolution for dragons is similar for that of a human. Only when the human learns to really unlock the powers of the dragon, can the dragon evolve and only when the dragon too, learns to unlock parts of the human, the human evolves as well. Let me explain, there is gold draconium in trace amounts in all dragons and traces of all other colors as well. One of the cool secrets of Dragon Booster is that there is gold draconium in all of the humans as they have absorbed it from the food and soil into their own bones. That is why humans can be safely magged with energy and eventually command it, gold acts as kind of universal key, protects you from the energy and also allows you to channel it. Thus in the Academy, both humans and dragons together learn to evolve to the Elite Class, one transformation (dragon) is outward in appearance, the other (human) inward. The Elite Class races and gear are far more powerful, faster and way more dangerous on the scale of watching Mortis and Drakkus battle. (I couldn't really find any more question/answers addressing the matter) So, from what we can gather: - These evolved dragons are, generally, too big for normal street riding (if you look at some streets in Down City, Abanddon would have some serious trouble fitting his head alone, figure the rest of his bulk).
- Evolved dragons are 'altered' not just physically but also 'mentally'.
- Evolved dragons are able to channel an amount of power several magnitudes greater than non-evolved dragons.
- Because of the power involved, controlling evolved dragons is hazardous, at best.
- There seem to be a series of other reasons that mostly involve the Academy's shroud of secrecy. (Hence why only Academy dragons are evolved)
That said, i think it's safe to assume that the true danger of riding evolved dragons is more related to physical practicality, more than anything. But i have a personal (and mildly crazy) theory. It is mentioned that in order for both dragon and rider to progress in the Academy, they must learn to unlock their counterpart's true potential. This, eventually, causes a physical evolution in the dragon, and a mental one in the human. However, i think that there's an hint that it's a two-way thing. When the human evolves, so does the dragon and viceversa. The fact that it's been indicated that there's an average of 1 graduate per class, leads me to believe that not only it's something incredibly hard to achieve, but also to master. What happens to partially evolved dragons? What happens to riders who fail at graduating? Until we don't know this, there is a large gap that needs to be filled. But back to fully evolved dragons and their riders. So far, we have seen 3 evolved dragons (Libris, Abanddon and Tyrannis Pax), and 2 of their riders (Drakkus/Word Paynn and Mortis/Connor Penn) using them. Perhaps we should count 4 riders, since we've also seen Rivett and Chute, whose dragons are (supposedly, in Rivett's case) Libris and Twyster (of which we have no visual reference). A common theme seems that all these 4 mentioned dragons are kept in 'safe' locations, far away from the prying eye. Abanddon is kept somewhere in Paynn Citadel's core levels; Tyrannis Pax is hidden inside the Dragon Temple, which itself sits deep under Penn Stables; Libris hides somewhere unseen, but apparently still in a good enough spot to not be normally trackable by Rivett or let alone the other Mechanists; Twyster is kept at the Academy while Chute uses another dragon (Turbulence) to go out. This leads me to believe that the reason why evolved dragons could be dangerous is not just a practical one, but may also relate to what they've become. Just imagine, how would you feel if you were kept in such reclusion? Now, takes those feelings and apply them to someone like Abanddon. Wouldn't you become slightly ticked off at being kept inside for pretty much the entire time? And what would you do if you had a (generally) unmatched power, respect to those around you? What would you feel or do when someone 'annoys' you, and you knew that you could just swat them away like nothing? My theory pivots around the fact that since dragons DO have a psycological complexity not too dissimilar from a human's (heck, in the official character listing a Dragon Eyes crew dragon is said to be a vidd game addict), there's the possibility that not all the dragons that enter the academy leave in a psycological state that can be defined as 'whole' or 'stable'. The main reason why we don't see Abanddon and Tyrannis Pax actively rebelling to their riders might have to do with the fact that, in both cases, the Dragon Priests' teachings have taught them something that we still don't know anything about (after all, the Dragon Priests do believe in equality between dragons and humans, so it's not a far shot to think that they trained not just Connor and Word, but also Tyrannis and Abanddon). In their cases, it's clear that it might be a form of self-imposed seclusion, rather than a sort of 'safety containment'. Again, without anything consistent from the show (or it's authors) to take a solid reference from, there's no telling if these considerations are even close to the truth or not. So, what's your take on this matter? |
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Post by Bluesonic1 on Jun 2, 2016 4:12:48 GMT -5
You forgot one more bullet point, that evolved dragons are more pure in a specific draconium colour than non-evolved dragons  Tyrannis Pax for example, is mostly pure Gold (not as pure as Beau I believe though), despite originating as a predominantly blue draconium dragon. As they evolve with their riders, their riders draw out the colour of their own influence (which is usually the main colour of influence for their dragon too, but not always as in the case of Tyrannis) and morph the dragon's percentage mix toward said colour. It's hard to say because as you mentioned already, it's hard to go by anything considering the lack of info we have on the subject. Honestly, I always just thought that those who fail the Academy either re-sit the year or simply leave, much like people already do at school and university in real life. School isn't for everyone, and it seems like street racing is a thing in the DB world that people can make a career out of even if they don't end up with Academy class dragons (albeit a low income career, but enough to live on nonetheless). Street racing is divided into predominantly city racing, Academy racing and then Elite class racing, with the tracks being in different locations of the city (makes sense because as you pointed out, a dragon like Abandonn would never fit on the all-city tracks!). I'm not sure if I buy into the whole secrecy thing regarding Academy & Elite class dragons, for several reasons. Connor & Word are hard to use as examples due to their dragons relating to their secret identities; are the dragons themselves a secret, or just part of the secret that is their identity? Likewise, Libris is hard to use as an example as well due to the nature of Grey draconium being highly sought after and highly dangerous- is he hidden because he's an Elite dragon, or hidden because of the amount of people out there who would exploit his rare coloured draconium? The only one who can really be looked at is Chute and her dragon, and by the sounds of it, Twyster isn't hidden, it seems that he just isn't allowed on the track- most likely due to things you've already pointed out such as being dangerously powerful compared to the other street dragons and also probably not being able to fit on the tracks to begin with. She's pretty open about having Twyster, most seem to know of her dragon. That said, we only have her to go on as an example so I'm still not 100% buying into my own theory even, but I feel like it has more weight to it due to the issues I pointed out with the other examples. Also, I'm not so sure the issue of rebelling dragons is quelled due to training, so much as the bond the rider shares with their dragon. *insert Mortis' speech about being "part of the One"* While I'm in full agreement with you that I also think evolution is a two-way street (it's hinted at in the show quite a bit, with Connor telling Artha he needs to "release the dragon in himself"), affecting humans and dragons both physically and mentally (though I get the feeling for humans, it's more mental), there is something else I'll throw into the mix just to be a devil's advocate: evolved Orange dragons. We see them on the Track of Doom. I bring this up because they're very a very independent breed when it comes to their human riders. Some yes, still have a bond with their riders that we see with other dragons, but many do not. And the evolved Orange dragons most certainly are never seen to have riders, nor do they take particularly well to humans considering the encounters Artha and friends have with them. So... how did they evolve then if evolution is meant to be a two-way street? One possibility is they originally had humans, used them to evolve and then ditched them. But the other possibility is that they can evolve without humans somehow. |
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Post by BraveSteelDragon on Jun 2, 2016 6:09:28 GMT -5
You forgot one more bullet point, that evolved dragons are more pure in a specific draconium colour than non-evolved dragons Tyrannis Pax for example, is mostly pure Gold (not as pure as Beau I believe though), despite originating as a predominantly blue draconium dragon. As they evolve with their riders, their riders draw out the colour of their own influence (which is usually the main colour of influence for their dragon too, but not always as in the case of Tyrannis) and morph the dragon's percentage mix toward said colour. Yeah, now i noticed. Something that i've also come to notice is that the evolved dragon assumes some peculiarities that relate to their rider's secondary draconium influences. Mortis(/Connor) is indicated (in the 'official' character sheet that the MD has given) to have Blue as primary influence, and Brown, Green and Gold as secondary influences. If we look closely, we see that in all instances where we see Tyrannis, he's mostly Brown and uses Gold energy. I don't know where the green is, but something tells me it's hinted in Mortis' priest armor. Similarly goes for Abandonn (i looked up the correct spelling) and Drakkus(/Word P.). Word's primary influence is Black, and his secondary influences are Purple, Orange and Red. In his 'normal' form, Abandonn reflects these colors perfectly. Even Drakkus' armor hints at this: Black armor, with shades of purple and accents of red and orange. Curious, huh? Mostly this was a purely aesthetic choice, but it's curious if they tried to hint at anything with it. It's hard to say because as you mentioned already, it's hard to go by anything considering the lack of info we have on the subject. Honestly, I always just thought that those who fail the Academy either re-sit the year or simply leave, much like people already do at school and university in real life. School isn't for everyone, and it seems like street racing is a thing in the DB world that people can make a career out of even if they don't end up with Academy class dragons (albeit a low income career, but enough to live on nonetheless). Street racing is divided into predominantly city racing, Academy racing and then Elite class racing, with the tracks being in different locations of the city (makes sense because as you pointed out, a dragon like Abandonn would never fit on the all-city tracks!). Hmm, most likely it is how you put it. Khatah himself states that he's been at the academy, and yet Shok-Ra is not evolved. To would solve this inconsistency, it is possible to say that Khatah and Shok-Ra left the Academy, although they did carry with them quite the educational baggage. I remember reading somewhere that Wulph and Hyve went to the Academy too, and that they failed a critical test which lead them to have those scars on their right eyes. Will need to look up in detail it's a Fanon or Canon thing. I'm not sure if I buy into the whole secrecy thing regarding Academy & Elite class dragons, for several reasons. Connor & Word are hard to use as examples due to their dragons relating to their secret identities; are the dragons themselves a secret, or just part of the secret that is their identity? Likewise, Libris is hard to use as an example as well due to the nature of Grey draconium being highly sought after and highly dangerous- is he hidden because he's an Elite dragon, or hidden because of the amount of people out there who would exploit his rare coloured draconium? The only one who can really be looked at is Chute and her dragon, and by the sounds of it, Twyster isn't hidden, it seems that he just isn't allowed on the track- most likely due to things you've already pointed out such as being dangerously powerful compared to the other street dragons and also probably not being able to fit on the tracks to begin with. She's pretty open about having Twyster, most seem to know of her dragon. That said, we only have her to go on as an example so I'm still not 100% buying into my own theory even, but I feel like it has more weight to it due to the issues I pointed out with the other examples. Also, I'm not so sure the issue of rebelling dragons is quelled due to training, so much as the bond the rider shares with their dragon. *insert Mortis' speech about being "part of the One"* Good point there. *sigh* While I'm in full agreement with you that I also think evolution is a two-way street (it's hinted at in the show quite a bit, with Connor telling Artha he needs to "release the dragon in himself"), affecting humans and dragons both physically and mentally (though I get the feeling for humans, it's more mental), there is something else I'll throw into the mix just to be a devil's advocate: evolved Orange dragons. We see them on the Track of Doom. I bring this up because they're very a very independent breed when it comes to their human riders. Some yes, still have a bond with their riders that we see with other dragons, but many do not. And the evolved Orange dragons most certainly are never seen to have riders, nor do they take particularly well to humans considering the encounters Artha and friends have with them. So... how did they evolve then if evolution is meant to be a two-way street? One possibility is they originally had humans, used them to evolve and then ditched them. But the other possibility is that they can evolve without humans somehow. I would assume that although dragons have been said by the MD that they have a life expectancy very close to a human's (about 100 years, by our terms), since they are reptiles i would assume that they kinda grow slowly but constantly as they age. Although it's not really a good paragon, when you look at Fracshun (Lance's Energy-class), supposedly he's the same age as Lance, which would be 10 years old. Now, compare him to Beau (who's 16 years old). The size difference is clear, but not too great. This leads me to theorize that the orange dragons in the track of doom might have only partially evolved, as a great deal of their size would derive from an 'amplification' of what their normal size would be if they were not evolved. Who knows, perhaps among them there's Propheci's grandma! (Grandma: "Propheci! Have you brushed your teeth?!" Propheci: "Silence! I'm plotting my revenge against the Dragon of Legend!" ... Ok, sorry, i just had to write it down.) Something to take into consideration, is that both Abandonn and Tyrannis Pax are (as far as we know) of similar age as their riders too, hence they're most likely in their late 40's! Final word about this: They did go through evolution? Yes, but partially. As you hinted, they most likely 'discarded' their riders as soon as they touched the first point of evolution, thinking (wrongly) that they had unlocked all of their potential power. This is also proved true by the fact that they don't present any specific detail respect to other 'normal' orange dragons (but i'm blaming that one on design production error, rather than an intended thing) besides their size. |
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Post by Bluesonic1 on Jun 3, 2016 7:21:50 GMT -5
Hmm I didn't think about it before, but it's likely the majority of characters' outfits colours are probably based on their primary and secondary colours. For Drakkus and Mortis specifically... the Priest armour doesn't support your theory (more later) but Drakkus' does due to comments in the show about that kind of armour. In an episode where Word catches Dragon Booster and attempts to remove his helmet, he comments that the armour is "wrought in the ancient ways" and is made of draconium itself (how pure of a particular colour, no one knows). This comment is mentioned later on in the series when Artha uses Beau's mag energy to charge his suit. Around the same time, Mortis comments that Drakkus' armour is ancient- from all this, we can assume it's made of draconium and if so, it will at least be Black to suit Word's primary influence. Secondary influence or more, we can't be sure of as we're never given more details about the armour and how its constructed (draconium can take the form of metal, so the armour would have been forged like a blacksmith does in real life- whether it can be worked pure or needs to be mixed into an alloy we can't say). Also, at least in Drakkus' case, another thing that suggests his armour colour is a coincidence is that it's an ancient set i.e. it used to belong to someone else and was made for them, and Word merely obtained or was given said armour. As for Mortis' priest armour, we can definitely rule out that the colour is related to his own influences as not only do all the Gold priests have this same armour, but even Green draconium priests have the same colour, just a different head piece and armour style. From this, it seems that all the priests share the base green suits, and differ in ornamental design instead. Ahhh that's true, I'd forgotten about Khatah and Wulph! Yes, I do believe it was canon information regarding the scar, shared via the Magna Draconis rather than the show itself. I don't think Khatah would have left the Academy willingly considering he joins in the competitions to try and get a spot in the Academy along with everyone else, as does Wulph (though he may have had to leave due to the injury? Not sure why he couldn't take time off to recover and then return though). Hmm I'm not entirely sure about that, because I recall somewhere in the MD that ancient Beau was actually around Beau's current size, but the MD never explained why because we were meant to find out during the Academy series, and Ancient Dragon Booster was older than Artha at that point (and so Ancient Beau would have been older as well). I'm not a fan of the theory in general because if you look at other street dragons of the same colour but different ages i.e. Fracshun vs Shock-Rah or Cyrano vs Brutaris, the difference isn't that much despite the age gap. I think that after a certain age, they stop growing, much in the same way humans do. As for the 'partially evolved Orange' theory... I'm not keen on it for one particular reason. The size they are isn't Academy size, they're Elite size (don't forget there's three sizes in total). They're the same size as Abandonn and Tyranis, who are both Elite class dragons. Even if you're correct and they got bigger due to a combination of their own growth and partial evolution, I don't think that would be enough to push them well into the Elite class. ((I'm loving these discussions by the way  )) |
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Post by BraveSteelDragon on Jun 3, 2016 8:15:19 GMT -5
Hmm I didn't think about it before, but it's likely the majority of characters' outfits colours are probably based on their primary and secondary colours. For Drakkus and Mortis specifically... the Priest armour doesn't support your theory (more later) but Drakkus' does due to comments in the show about that kind of armour. In an episode where Word catches Dragon Booster and attempts to remove his helmet, he comments that the armour is "wrought in the ancient ways" and is made of draconium itself (how pure of a particular colour, no one knows). This comment is mentioned later on in the series when Artha uses Beau's mag energy to charge his suit. Around the same time, Mortis comments that Drakkus' armour is ancient- from all this, we can assume it's made of draconium and if so, it will at least be Black to suit Word's primary influence. Secondary influence or more, we can't be sure of as we're never given more details about the armour and how its constructed (draconium can take the form of metal, so the armour would have been forged like a blacksmith does in real life- whether it can be worked pure or needs to be mixed into an alloy we can't say). Also, at least in Drakkus' case, another thing that suggests his armour colour is a coincidence is that it's an ancient set i.e. it used to belong to someone else and was made for them, and Word merely obtained or was given said armour. As for Mortis' priest armour, we can definitely rule out that the colour is related to his own influences as not only do all the Gold priests have this same armour, but even Green draconium priests have the same colour, just a different head piece and armour style. From this, it seems that all the priests share the base green suits, and differ in ornamental design instead. Indeed it seems so. I'm leaning to blame this one on design production, though. The other Gold dragon priests are far too copy-and-paste, and they're seen in only an instance or two, mostly flashbacks. And since we have no reference for priests of the other colors of balance (black, blue and red), your guess is just as good as mine. Ahhh that's true, I'd forgotten about Khatah and Wulph! Yes, I do believe it was canon information regarding the scar, shared via the Magna Draconis rather than the show itself. I don't think Khatah would have left the Academy willingly considering he joins in the competitions to try and get a spot in the Academy along with everyone else, as does Wulph (though he may have had to leave due to the injury? Not sure why he couldn't take time off to recover and then return though). MUAHAHA! I FOUND IT! Would you tell us where Wulph and Hyve got their scars? Wulph has one on his right eye and Hyve has one on her left. Are they battle scars or an indication of their rank in the Army of Dragon? How and why do they have them? Thanks for the cool question Empyrean-Dragon. The Army of the Dragon has some very rigorous training methods (way tougher than the US Marines). During Army of the Dragon training, one of the main rites of passage is when dragons and humans are divided up and spar against each other as a group. The humans are given a small amount of gear to even the odds and off they go. The last two standing in a particular battle were Wulph and Hyve who fighting over a piece of trapping gear were both hit by it as it went off between them. The mirror scar is the result and the "draw" made them a perfect partnership as rider and dragon. So apparently Wulph and Hyve never got into the Academy, BUT, it is hinted that they could have an even stronger bond as a team than what Artha and Beau seem to have. Most likely is their lack of other virtues that didn't make Wulph and Hyve go really far in the Academy selection races (where they are seen pretty much always, but just as many times fail). Hmm I'm not entirely sure about that, because I recall somewhere in the MD that ancient Beau was actually around Beau's current size, but the MD never explained why because we were meant to find out during the Academy series, and Ancient Dragon Booster was older than Artha at that point (and so Ancient Beau would have been older as well). I'm not a fan of the theory in general because if you look at other street dragons of the same colour but different ages i.e. Fracshun vs Shock-Rah or Cyrano vs Brutaris, the difference isn't that much despite the age gap. I think that after a certain age, they stop growing, much in the same way humans do. As for the 'partially evolved Orange' theory... I'm not keen on it for one particular reason. The size they are isn't Academy size, they're Elite size (don't forget there's three sizes in total). They're the same size as Abandonn and Tyranis, who are both Elite class dragons. Even if you're correct and they got bigger due to a combination of their own growth and partial evolution, I don't think that would be enough to push them well into the Elite class. Apparently, it wasn't until after the war that Academy training became a thing. Hence, no dragon before and during the war could 'evolve', as such conecpt had not been conceived, let alone introduced. There's also to keep in mind that there's a large inconsistency caused by the show's production. I.E.: Phistus is (in the production's Character Sheet given by the MD) meant to be 18 years old, despite looking in the late 20's (i honestly think his hair is dyed white-grey); Captain Faier is supposed to be 25, despite looking in the mid 40's (he looks of similar age as Connor and Word). Unless the average life expectancy in Dragon City is rather low (Bronze Age kind of low), then we have to assume that, unless it is specified otherwise, dragons are of similar age range to their riders, give or take a couple of years. Our only confirmed reference to a correlation between a dragon and a rider's age is with Artha and Beau, which as for the script from The Alchemist presents, they even share the same birthday (born on the same day with only a few minutes of difference from one another!). We can only hope that should the Academy series ever enter active production, the ones who'll produce the show will be a tad more careful with certain details (for consistency's sake). ((I'm loving these discussions by the way )) Me too. After all, isn't it the point of a forum?  Besides, this kind of discussion can be an incredibly useful future reference for people who would seek this kind of information for the most varied purpouses (like RP and Fanfiction). |
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Post by Bluesonic1 on Jun 4, 2016 0:14:28 GMT -5
I think they have copy-paste designs on purpose though, for 2 reasons. The first relates to looking at each colour individually, I think all priests of a single colour look the same in order to eliminate a sense of individuality and strengthen this recurring theme in DB that we're all "part of the one". The second relates to why the designs are so similar across different colours (going on just Gold and Green anyway) is to indicate that while each colour has its differences, they're all the same at the end of the day.
Ahhh, I knew Wulph & Hyve was something to do with a trial gone wrong, wasn't sure if it was Academy or something else (I assumed Academy as crew trials don't appear to be that common).
You forget something here though; Elite and Academy classes are so dangerous because they're considered the "original ancient ways". Mortis (I think) mentions this in a comment when he explains the kind of gear Abandonn is wearing when we first see him; the gear wasn't designed for races, it was designed for war. Also, the Academy is based on training students in "the old ways", similar to the Priests but with different end goals in mind (I think I remember somewhere in the MD it's mentioned that the Academy was a response by a group of people who want to stop a future war in their own way and while the priests have their own way, the both ultimately work to prevent a future war). The Academy has after all, all the "houses" of different colours much like there used to be empires of all the colours. Here's an extract from the MD:
It's a little vague, considering they didn't want to give away details due to the Academy series being in production (>_____________<) But the quote kinda hints at either of our theories being correct; either the ancient dragons had bone-marks to give them their power, hence evolution not needed (but then it begs the question of did all ancient dragons have their own bone-marks?), or ancient Beau in particular gained his power through the bone-mark and gold draconium and didn't need to evolve like other dragons. I actually kinda think you might be right as during flashbacks showing ancient Beau's battles with leader dragons, they're shown to be around the same size; this could be a show inconsistency though, but it's something. The Academy mention to me kinda hints to the fact that in those days, it was the Empires that trained their warriors. As far as I know, there was never officially a Gold Empire, just the Gold priests and their temple; I guess they could only train ancient Beau so much. I don't understand why though the Academy, an organisation dedicated to steering people away from war, would develop this new technique of creating giant dragons that didn't used to be around during war times. It just kinda seems like "our ancestors abused and killed each other with chemical weapons/bombs- we will learn from this and not follow their mistakes. But in the meantime, let's develop nuclear weapons instead".
Kinda relating to ancient Beau mentioned above to answer the size thing, I read elsewhere on the MD that ancient DB was definitely older than Artha, and kinda hints to be by many years too due referencing him to the character "Bowen" from the movie Dragonheart. But it does say that Beau and ancient Beau look "very very similar" so it kinda suggests the sizing thing is through evolution, otherwise he would have noted "they look similar, but ancient Beau being just slightly larger". Also the quote above kinda suggests the size is through evolution rather than natural growth with "the evolution needed through academy training". And yeah, the show's inconsistencies really don't help the situation :/
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Tyrannis Pax for example, is mostly pure Gold (not as pure as Beau I believe though), despite originating as a predominantly blue draconium dragon. As they evolve with their riders, their riders draw out the colour of their own influence (which is usually the main colour of influence for their dragon too, but not always as in the case of Tyrannis) and morph the dragon's percentage mix toward said colour.
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